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Dead Metal wrote:The first ongoing TF series in years? So when they kept emphasizing that the TF comic stated with Infiltration was indeed ongoing and not a miniseries they lied to us?

I was confused by the news release and so I asked over at the IDW forums just what it is all supposed to mean.

All 3 of the new series are in continuity with AHM. I found this to very disappointing. I was hoping for something NEW.

So the new series by Mike Costa is basically the same privy that has been repainted, got a new toilet lid, and a sign hanging outside that says under new management. It has curb appeal but it still smells like the same old crap. Okay, so I didn't like AHM but when they said new ongoing series I had thought they were going to be writing something new. If you look at the cover, that robot even has the same cigar as in AHM.
I feel sorry for the new writer to have to come into that mess.

If I were a writer, I wouldn't sign up to writing anything that came after AHM. Mowry and Furman were wise to stick with Bayformers for now.

I have never been on the bandwagon with Bayformers so there is nothing that IDW has come up with that I will be reading.

IDW makes poor choices.

Energon wrote:

Dead Metal wrote:The first ongoing TF series in years? So when they kept emphasizing that the TF comic stated with Infiltration was indeed ongoing and not a miniseries they lied to us?

I was confused by the news release and so I asked over at the IDW forums just what it is all supposed to mean.

All 3 of the new series are in continuity with AHM. I found this to very disappointing. I was hoping for something NEW.

So the new series by Mike Costa is basically the same privy that has been repainted, got a new toilet lid, and a sign hanging outside that says under new management. It has curb appeal but it still smells like the same old crap. Okay, so I didn't like AHM but when they said new ongoing series I had thought they were going to be writing something new. If you look at the cover, that robot even has the same cigar as in AHM.
I feel sorry for the new writer to have to come into that mess.

If I were a writer, I wouldn't sign up to writing anything that came after AHM. Mowry and Furman were wise to stick with Bayformers for now.

I have never been on the bandwagon with Bayformers so there is nothing that IDW has come up with that I will be reading.

IDW makes poor choices.

I dunno, mate. AHM seems to have been financially successful. ANd, frankly, that is the only way a licsenced franchise will continue to be published.

NuclearConvoy wrote:
I dunno, mate. AHM seems to have been financially successful. ANd, frankly, that is the only way a licsenced franchise will continue to be published.

Yes and no. That is why they renamed CODA to be AHM 13+ because they didn't want to have to market CODA as something separate. AHM made a consistant 12k per issue. -tion started at 45k and went down to 25k but IDW was dinking around with the series by then and it is no wonder that the numbers dropped. You couldn't follow the series. They mucked the whole thing up by adding spotlights, shortening the series only to add it again in a different form. Not numbering the series, etc. There was background material that was needed to decode the series which wasn't mentioned. I had never heard of half of the bots used in Revelation. IDW assumed that anyone reading the comics has read them from day 1. I thought that Infiltration 0 was the start of the series when really Stormbringer,and a few other miniseries were all part of it. That was frustrating cause nothing was referenced. At least that is one thing that Marvel had going for it in the early days of Transformers. As I have made my opinion, IDW made some poor choices. It is not just AHM that was the problem.

Go to the IDW forums for better quotes on the numbers, but this is what I remember.

I just had hopes for a new ongoing series that was NEW and not related to AHM. That does not mean they cannot have an ongoing AHM series for those who follow that continuity. IDW announced 3 series and all the eggs are in the AHM basket. That is bad news. If they had started a NEW series then it would give IDW a fresh outlook.

Energon wrote:

That was frustrating cause nothing was referenced.

Really? It always seemed like there was a reference to a spotlight pretty regularly...the whole Ultra-Energon thing was all because of what happens in the Shockwave spotlight and the whole series seemed to keep continuing that trend as it went on...

When I say referenced, I mean like they did in the Marvel comics. They would have a little asterisk with a "see issue #xx".

There was also nothing to say that Spotlights were connected with the series. My LCS never ordered any spotlights till I told them that they were part of the story. I, myself never knew they were part of the series till I was almost done with the series and even if they had been on the shelf, I had no interest in shockwave or hot rod or most of the others. I read them just to get the missing story. I felt that the stuff presented in the spotlights should have been part of the main story line not some side thing. You shouldn't have to dig for information. If IDW wants to know why they loose readers, that was one of them.

They lost my business out of the way they handle their product.

Ah.

To be fair, there's not alot of comics that bother doing that anymore...and most of the ones that do usually do it as a gag...

I love Mike Costa's work on GI Joe: Cobra so I'm stoked for this ongoing!

Why don't they just hire Brad Mick? For all the flack they got in DW, their plotlines and story thrust were great homages to G1. IMHO, the minute they monkeyed with the TF origins in their -Tion series 3 to 3 years ago spelled the beginning of the end. Now they're trying to salvage the mess with a ("more?") G1 oriented universe AHM ( I still am at loss for words why the Seekers devolved from high tech Raptors back to F15 eagles) and still cling on a failed premise of the Tion universe.