Chris Ryall Responds To Beast Wars Profiles Criticisms

At least he Cowboy-ed up to this one. I can respect that.

Big Convoy is still owed a big apology though.

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Kudos to Ryall for being professional and admitting any mistakes (which I haven't seen as I'm still waiting for the book to arrive), as well as maintaining a civil discourse with the fans.

Maybe I should look over the issue before I buy it...

I am not a big Beast Wars fan but that was awesome. He admitted his mistake and apologized. Then gave plans for the future to rectify it.

WOW. That never happens. Mad props to Ryall for doing what was right. I respect that immensely.

What kinds of mistakes were made?

Major high fives to the man in the robot suit.

Sloptank wrote:Major high fives to the man in the robot suit.

I agree! This is the guy we need working on the MOVIE!

I think IDW wants to do right by us and I respect that, and sometimes not all projects turn out to be winners and I except that.

"once again, IDW screws its fans,"?

Immature.

Big of Ryall to admit a mistake. I hope that it DOES get fixed up a bit in TPB form. Those images could be a lot larger to cover up some of that empty white space, for example.

I'm actually surprised by the lack of text in the book. I guess I was expecting something more like More Than Meets the Eye. Ah well.

I just keep liking this guy more and more.

tile_mcgillus wrote:I am not a big Beast Wars fan but that was awesome. He admitted his mistake and apologized. Then gave plans for the future to rectify it.

WOW. That never happens. Mad props to Ryall for doing what was right. I respect that immensely.

Hey Barry Bonds and Michael Vick, THAT'S HOW YOU APOLOGIZE! LEARN FROM IT YOU IDIOTS!

"This is the guy we need working on the MOVIE!"

Agreed. I enjoyed the prequel a lot and I thought things tied in to the movie quite nicely.

Sorry to ask, but what is that book about exactly? And what are the mistakes?

Well, I was really pissed with the screw-ups, but at least Chris has the balls to own up to it. I really, really hope its fixed for the TPB. I have an amazing amount of respect for Chris Ryall

What else is he going to??? the mea culpa is nice, but this 'falling through the cracks' is the main reason I don't buy IDW comics anymore.

Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote:What else is he going to??? the mea culpa is nice, but this 'falling through the cracks' is the main reason I don't buy IDW comics anymore.

You have some other reason to give them grief?

Except for this small delay for these current books, IDW has been pretty good and damn loyal to the fan base so far.

I like his attitude towards QC.

It's great to see that there are still people high up who will admit that they stuffed up, and not try to pass the blame.

In fact I think Ryall is pulling too much blame onto himself, much of the blame has to be given to the writers.

But full marks to Ryall for being a stand out bloke.

tigertracks 24 wrote:To others they put it aside, and chalked it up as an IDW rush job with so much happening on the TF comics front lately.

It's not exactly a rush job if it took a year to do, and with most of the bulk that could have caused these problems happening months ago.

And it`s all well and good to take responsibility for it. Quite a different thing to actually do something about it later.

I seem to recall the Soundwave/Shockwave error being fixed for the trade of Animated Movie. I've got faith that these errors will be fixed, too.

Also, I'm no expert, but I think that Ryall has to oversee EVERY book IDW does, not just the TF ones. That probably puts him in a bad spot as being the one to have to answer to things that go sour. They did a lot this past year with the prequel stuff, movie-related projects (remember the Target comic?) and we've heard they have DVD-related stuff, too.

They're a small group and do good stuff. I think we can cut the guy a little slack, no?

And yes, "30 Days of Night" looks awesome.

slagfan wrote:I think we can cut the guy a little slack, no?

No is right. I don't feel like particularly giving anyone involved in this any brownie points, considering they've all had a year to get their acts together.

And I'm not being "pro-Ryall" at all. I enjoyed his prequel story with Simon and think IDW as a whole do good work.

Just sucks to see someone take blame openly and then get knocked for it.

But come to think of it, that Soundwave/Shockwave goof was pretty bad!

slagfan wrote:Just sucks to see someone take blame openly and then get knocked for it.

As I said, taking blame is one thing. Doing something about it is another.

I guess we will see how much better the 3rd Profile book is then, seeing as it will not only be under Ryall's editorial eye, but the new Transformers only editor Andrew Harris.

Obi-Wan Kenobi wrote:What else is he going to??? the mea culpa is nice, but this 'falling through the cracks' is the main reason I don't buy IDW comics anymore.

not to be rude, but whose comics do you buy? Seriously, no sarcasm. I'm not a huge comic affiscionado, but IDW has less cracks than any other company i'm familiar with. And they patch their's faster. I guess what i'm asking is what real-world based standard are you comparing them with, because i'd really like to check out stuff by a company that is more reliable than idw(no one I know of is) to see if they have stuff that interests me. But i'll be with idw to the end.

Darth Bombshell wrote:

slagfan wrote:Just sucks to see someone take blame openly and then get knocked for it.

As I said, taking blame is one thing. Doing something about it is another.

You bring up a good point. I think that as long as Beast Wars is seen as TRANSFORMERS: beast wars, this will always be the case. While i like furman a lot and think he does good work, If beast wars is going to become a serious creative outing, i'd like to see it get its own team, including a personally devoted writer. And to lose the emphasis on being a transformers comic. It's just too large to be sub-grouped. While i do enjoy the occasional side project by furman, this simply is no longer in the realm of side projects. I'd like to see him focus on G1 and this get it's own project status.

What happened in the books to result in this? (i've been too broke to buy stuff...)

slagfan wrote:But come to think of it, that Soundwave/Shockwave goof was pretty bad!

What is this goof of which you speak? Enlighten me, please!

It's admirable that he's owned up and taken responsibility for IDW's mistakes and is wanting to rectify it in the TPBs, he can hardly have the book pulled reprinted and issued for free to all that bought it can he now? Those giving IDW a hard time over this need to get out more an realise just how unimportant and petty this all is. It's just a comic book, in fact its not even that its a reference book, an add on, most comic book series don't even do this sort of stuff so why not just be happy you have it at all?

IMO so far IDW have done pretty great job with Transformers especially the new G1 stuff and Beast Wars, so I'm willing to forgive this this minor indiscretion. Maybe If I'd bought the Animated Movie series I'd be more pissed off but right now I'm willing to chalk the £4 I paid for BW Source Book 1 down to experience. I'll not be getting any of the other issues in preference of waiting for the TPBs which will hopefully have all the errors corrected.

BTW does anyone have a list of these so called error? I'd like to know exactly what i might be missing?

Yours AK

Alex Kingdom wrote:BTW does anyone have a list of these so called error? I'd like to know exactly what i might be missing?

BB colored like Sunstorm, TM2 Blackarachnia colored as normal Blackarachnia...

Funny. All this outrage for a few colouration errors. Funnier still that it took three separate pleas for clarification as to the errors before someone actually stepped up to say what the problem was (thanks Darth Bombshell).

But seriously - colouring errors? We get a book that has Autostinger and features Japanese colour-variations of U.S. releases and people have their knickers in a knot about colouring errors? Have people sat through G1 cartoons lately?

The summaries are well done and the art is superb. Though it would be nice if Cheetor had a picture of his TM2 mould and there was something on the back inside cover, I'm still surprised we have this book and it is of this overall quality. We should be apologizing to IDW for not being worthy...

Darth Bombshell wrote:

Alex Kingdom wrote:BTW does anyone have a list of these so called error? I'd like to know exactly what i might be missing?

BB colored like Sunstorm, TM2 Blackarachnia colored as normal Blackarachnia...

Honestly? Is that it? Is that all? Is that really what everyone has their knickers in a twist over? Jeez!

Personally, i think the biggest problem with the book is that seemingly unimportant characters like Bigmos and Archadis have received double page spreads whilst important guys like Dinobot and Big Convoy get a page each with a reasonably short write up, in fact most of the Bios in this book are short and unsubstantial. The incorrect coloring of a couple of character really is the least of it's problems.

Yours AK

Alex Kingdom wrote:Is that really what everyone has their knickers in a twist over?

No, those are just the ones that come to mind most readily. The issue about profile space, like you said, is a big deal to some, too. (Hell, I've been ragging about the inclusion of the Japanese characters forever...)

Alex Kingdom wrote:Personally, i think the biggest problem with the book is that seemingly unimportant characters like Bigmos and Archadis have received double page spreads whilst important guys like Dinobot and Big Convoy get a page each with a reasonably short write up, in fact most of the Bios in this book are short and unsubstantial. The incorrect coloring of a couple of character really is the least of it's problems.

Yours AK

Thats what my knickers are slightly knotted up for.

Leonardo wrote:

slagfan wrote:But come to think of it, that Soundwave/Shockwave goof was pretty bad!

What is this goof of which you speak? Enlighten me, please!

It was in the Animated Movie Adaptation. Don't know the page off-hand, but in issue 1, when Laserbeak returns from spying on Prime (the whole "a little energon and a lot of luck" line), Megatron says "soundwave, play back laserbeak's findings".

SHOCKWAVE says "as you command" or something like that.

Not to beat a dead horse, but that was fixed for the trade.

slagfan wrote:

Leonardo wrote:

slagfan wrote:But come to think of it, that Soundwave/Shockwave goof was pretty bad!

What is this goof of which you speak? Enlighten me, please!

It was in the Animated Movie Adaptation. Don't know the page off-hand, but in issue 1, when Laserbeak returns from spying on Prime (the whole "a little energon and a lot of luck" line), Megatron says "soundwave, play back laserbeak's findings".

SHOCKWAVE says "as you command" or something like that.

Not to beat a dead horse, but that was fixed for the trade.

Ah, I see. Silly IDW!