First Images of Hasbro Transformers Titans Return Magnus Prime Combined with Takara Legends God Bomber
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With the Siege on Cybertron set being shipped out across the US this week, there has been one big question: How does Magnus Prime look like combined with God Bomber? Magnus Prime from the Siege set is the very same toy as Takara's Legends Super Ginrai with different paint applications. So Takara's Legends God Bomber works with him for sure, but does the change in deco change anything? Does it still look good? Do the greys match?
Well, the images found below, taken by yous truly, should help. You will see him in both natual light and indoor lighting. I can attest that the grey plastic on God Bomber's chest appears to same to me as the grey plastic on Magnus Prime's thighs. Magnus prime's grey plastic for the trailer is far more grey/silver than the plastic found on Hasbro's Leader Power Master Optimus Prime which is more tan. This works well with the silver/grey paint founs on the boots formed from God Bomber. Hopefully this answers a few questions.
The combiner ports arent tucked in since doing so results in the red pieces forcing the trailer panels to become undone.
Well, the images found below, taken by yous truly, should help. You will see him in both natual light and indoor lighting. I can attest that the grey plastic on God Bomber's chest appears to same to me as the grey plastic on Magnus Prime's thighs. Magnus prime's grey plastic for the trailer is far more grey/silver than the plastic found on Hasbro's Leader Power Master Optimus Prime which is more tan. This works well with the silver/grey paint founs on the boots formed from God Bomber. Hopefully this answers a few questions.
The combiner ports arent tucked in since doing so results in the red pieces forcing the trailer panels to become undone.
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Re: First Images of Hasbro Transformers Titans Return Magnus Prime Combined with Takara Legends God Bomber (1905977)
Posted by Albatross250 on August 23rd, 2017 @ 11:06am CDT
Posted by Albatross250 on August 23rd, 2017 @ 11:06am CDT
Magnus Prime has Differences with LG Ginrai.....
Color Scheme
some fixed Adjustments (including the Combiner Wars Peg too.)
Color Scheme
some fixed Adjustments (including the Combiner Wars Peg too.)
Re: First Images of Hasbro Transformers Titans Return Magnus Prime Combined with Takara Legends God Bomber (1905981)
Posted by o.supreme on August 23rd, 2017 @ 11:17am CDT
Legends Ginrai has a CW Peg??
Posted by o.supreme on August 23rd, 2017 @ 11:17am CDT
Albatross250 wrote:Magnus Prime has Differences with LG Ginrai....(including the Combiner Wars Peg too.)
Legends Ginrai has a CW Peg??
Re: First Images of Hasbro Transformers Titans Return Magnus Prime Combined with Takara Legends God Bomber (1905982)
Posted by william-james88 on August 23rd, 2017 @ 11:19am CDT
No, just God Bomber
Posted by william-james88 on August 23rd, 2017 @ 11:19am CDT
o.supreme wrote:Albatross250 wrote:Magnus Prime has Differences with LG Ginrai....(including the Combiner Wars Peg too.)
Legends Ginrai has a CW Peg??
No, just God Bomber
Re: First Images of Hasbro Transformers Titans Return Magnus Prime Combined with Takara Legends God Bomber (1905985)
Posted by o.supreme on August 23rd, 2017 @ 11:23am CDT
Posted by o.supreme on August 23rd, 2017 @ 11:23am CDT
^Yeah I knew that, that's part of the reason I'm getting God Bomber, but his comment made it sound like Legends Ginrai had one as well.
Re: First Images of Hasbro Transformers Titans Return Magnus Prime Combined with Takara Legends God Bomber (1905988)
Posted by Randomhero on August 23rd, 2017 @ 11:37am CDT
Posted by Randomhero on August 23rd, 2017 @ 11:37am CDT
My Magnus Prime is now used for God Bomber. I really wanted my Ginrai to be solo so they could stand next to each other.
That being said my Magnus Prime is jacked up! His neck connector is busted up so instead of a neck it looks like a collar and his feet are just crud! I got him out and the pin that goes through his left foot was drilled through the plastic missing the hole completely. I have the worst luck because that how's my TFCC jet vehicle came too. Luckily it's not noticeable for display but when you take him down and mess with him his left foot is all kinds of screwed up. Figuratively and literally
That being said my Magnus Prime is jacked up! His neck connector is busted up so instead of a neck it looks like a collar and his feet are just crud! I got him out and the pin that goes through his left foot was drilled through the plastic missing the hole completely. I have the worst luck because that how's my TFCC jet vehicle came too. Luckily it's not noticeable for display but when you take him down and mess with him his left foot is all kinds of screwed up. Figuratively and literally
Re: First Images of Hasbro Transformers Titans Return Magnus Prime Combined with Takara Legends God Bomber (1905989)
Posted by Flashwave on August 23rd, 2017 @ 11:55am CDT
Posted by Flashwave on August 23rd, 2017 @ 11:55am CDT
Aw hell. You mean I coulda gotten newsed for playing eoth this for almost a day and a half? 
Those CW Pefs absolutely do tuck in. It takes some finagling, but even if you only roll them partially, they make a beter heel spur than hust hanging oyt there like a limp fish.
Those leg trailerside panels are really loose fitting though
Those CW Pefs absolutely do tuck in. It takes some finagling, but even if you only roll them partially, they make a beter heel spur than hust hanging oyt there like a limp fish.
Those leg trailerside panels are really loose fitting though
Re: First Images of Hasbro Transformers Titans Return Magnus Prime Combined with Takara Legends God Bomber (1905993)
Posted by kurthy on August 23rd, 2017 @ 12:23pm CDT
Isn't BBTS usually pretty good about replacements for that? All you need to do is reply to your confirmation email with pics of the factory defects.
I was lucky, all my Magnus prime joints are significantly tighter than LG ginrai, so it's much easier to stand him!
Posted by kurthy on August 23rd, 2017 @ 12:23pm CDT
Randomhero wrote:My Magnus Prime is now used for God Bomber. I really wanted my Ginrai to be solo so they could stand next to each other.
That being said my Magnus Prime is jacked up! His neck connector is busted up so instead of a neck it looks like a collar and his feet are just crud! I got him out and the pin that goes through his left foot was drilled through the plastic missing the hole completely. I have the worst luck because that how's my TFCC jet vehicle came too. Luckily it's not noticeable for display but when you take him down and mess with him his left foot is all kinds of screwed up. Figuratively and literally
Isn't BBTS usually pretty good about replacements for that? All you need to do is reply to your confirmation email with pics of the factory defects.
I was lucky, all my Magnus prime joints are significantly tighter than LG ginrai, so it's much easier to stand him!
Re: First Images of Hasbro Transformers Titans Return Magnus Prime Combined with Takara Legends God Bomber (1905994)
Posted by optimusprime58316 on August 23rd, 2017 @ 12:40pm CDT
Posted by optimusprime58316 on August 23rd, 2017 @ 12:40pm CDT
Reminds me of Omega Prime from 2001 Robots in Disguise. I still have my Robots in Disguise Optimus Prime and Ultra Magnus that combines to form Omega Prime. I lost the missiles for both figures tho.
Re: First Images of Hasbro Transformers Titans Return Magnus Prime Combined with Takara Legends God Bomber (1905995)
Posted by Evil Eye on August 23rd, 2017 @ 12:40pm CDT
You got some explainin' to do, girl.
Posted by Evil Eye on August 23rd, 2017 @ 12:40pm CDT
Kurona wrote:Legends Arcee
terrible design
You got some explainin' to do, girl.
Re: First Images of Hasbro Transformers Titans Return Magnus Prime Combined with Takara Legends God Bomber (1905996)
Posted by Randomhero on August 23rd, 2017 @ 12:43pm CDT
The set is sold out and it's not like it effects him wearing god bomber like I have it. Honestly since I have Ginrai Magnus Prime was just a bonus figure in the set for me. I wanted everyone but him. The crowning gem in the siege set was Tidal Wave for me. Close second was of course pounce to complete the clones but Tidal wave is wonderful.
Posted by Randomhero on August 23rd, 2017 @ 12:43pm CDT
kurthy wrote:Randomhero wrote:My Magnus Prime is now used for God Bomber. I really wanted my Ginrai to be solo so they could stand next to each other.
That being said my Magnus Prime is jacked up! His neck connector is busted up so instead of a neck it looks like a collar and his feet are just crud! I got him out and the pin that goes through his left foot was drilled through the plastic missing the hole completely. I have the worst luck because that how's my TFCC jet vehicle came too. Luckily it's not noticeable for display but when you take him down and mess with him his left foot is all kinds of screwed up. Figuratively and literally
Isn't BBTS usually pretty good about replacements for that? All you need to do is reply to your confirmation email with pics of the factory defects.
I was lucky, all my Magnus prime joints are significantly tighter than LG ginrai, so it's much easier to stand him!
The set is sold out and it's not like it effects him wearing god bomber like I have it. Honestly since I have Ginrai Magnus Prime was just a bonus figure in the set for me. I wanted everyone but him. The crowning gem in the siege set was Tidal Wave for me. Close second was of course pounce to complete the clones but Tidal wave is wonderful.
Re: First Images of Hasbro Transformers Titans Return Magnus Prime Combined with Takara Legends God Bomber (1905998)
Posted by o.supreme on August 23rd, 2017 @ 12:51pm CDT
Well yeah...originally in 1988 the toys Super Ginrai (PM Prime), and God Bomber combined to make God Ginrai...
Car Robots I think was at least partially inspired in 2000 when Fire Convoy and God Magnus (using parts of names from both God Bomber and Ultra Magnus), would combine to form God Fire Convoy (aka Omega Prime in the US RiD dub...)
I loved having the Omega Prime toy for the time that I had it. I remember it was a bit complicated though. Once I got them together I don't think I ever separated them LOL!
Posted by o.supreme on August 23rd, 2017 @ 12:51pm CDT
optimusprime58316 wrote:Reminds me of Omega Prime from 2001 Robots in Disguise. I still have my Robots in Disguise and Ultra Magnus that combines to form Omega Prime. I lost the missiles for both figures tho.
Well yeah...originally in 1988 the toys Super Ginrai (PM Prime), and God Bomber combined to make God Ginrai...
Car Robots I think was at least partially inspired in 2000 when Fire Convoy and God Magnus (using parts of names from both God Bomber and Ultra Magnus), would combine to form God Fire Convoy (aka Omega Prime in the US RiD dub...)
I loved having the Omega Prime toy for the time that I had it. I remember it was a bit complicated though. Once I got them together I don't think I ever separated them LOL!
Re: First Images of Hasbro Transformers Titans Return Magnus Prime Combined with Takara Legends God Bomber (1906001)
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on August 23rd, 2017 @ 1:21pm CDT
At least part of the delay is because FedEx transfers to the local post office for final delivery. Mine is also sitting within 5 miles of my house, but still in FedEx's hands, so it will transfer to the USPS tonight and they will deliver tomorrow.
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on August 23rd, 2017 @ 1:21pm CDT
o.supreme wrote:As of this morning they are both in Sacramento and expected to be delivered on Friday (why it would take an extra 2 days to go 20 miles is anybody's guess...)....
At least part of the delay is because FedEx transfers to the local post office for final delivery. Mine is also sitting within 5 miles of my house, but still in FedEx's hands, so it will transfer to the USPS tonight and they will deliver tomorrow.
Re: First Images of Hasbro Transformers Titans Return Magnus Prime Combined with Takara Legends God Bomber (1906010)
Posted by Rysquad on August 23rd, 2017 @ 2:09pm CDT
Posted by Rysquad on August 23rd, 2017 @ 2:09pm CDT
The more I see of "Magnus" Prime, the more I'm disappointed that there isn't much (or any) Ultra Magnus to him.
Re: First Images of Hasbro Transformers Titans Return Magnus Prime Combined with Takara Legends God Bomber (1906011)
Posted by Rysquad on August 23rd, 2017 @ 2:12pm CDT
Would love to see a Power of the Primes Optimus Prime/Ultra Magnus "evolve" to Omega Prime set.
Posted by Rysquad on August 23rd, 2017 @ 2:12pm CDT
o.supreme wrote:optimusprime58316 wrote:Reminds me of Omega Prime from 2001 Robots in Disguise. I still have my Robots in Disguise and Ultra Magnus that combines to form Omega Prime. I lost the missiles for both figures tho.
Well yeah...originally in 1988 the toys Super Ginrai (PM Prime), and God Bomber combined to make God Ginrai...
Car Robots I think was at least partially inspired in 2000 when Fire Convoy and God Magnus (using parts of names from both God Bomber and Ultra Magnus), would combine to form God Fire Convoy (aka Omega Prime in the US RiD dub...)
I loved having the Omega Prime toy for the time that I had it. I remember it was a bit complicated though. Once I got them together I don't think I ever separated them LOL!
Would love to see a Power of the Primes Optimus Prime/Ultra Magnus "evolve" to Omega Prime set.
Re: First Images of Hasbro Transformers Titans Return Magnus Prime Combined with Takara Legends God Bomber (1906013)
Posted by Sabrblade on August 23rd, 2017 @ 2:23pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on August 23rd, 2017 @ 2:23pm CDT
He's got a blue Speedo, at least.Rysquad wrote:The more I see of "Magnus" Prime, the more I'm disappointed that there isn't much (or any) Ultra Magnus to him.
Re: First Images of Hasbro Transformers Titans Return Magnus Prime Combined with Takara Legends God Bomber (1906016)
Posted by bvzxa on August 23rd, 2017 @ 2:31pm CDT
I would too, but given how they try to simplify everything for these new age kids, I doubt we would ever see them release it again. Those toys used higher quality plastics back then as well as rubber tires...even Takara cancelled the re-release of Fire Convoy a while back though it was planned.
I owned like 3 different versions of Fire Convoy/Optimus, and the Hasbro Release of Ultra Magnus and I loved them. I had the Sams Club yellow one, the first release Takara and the first release of the Hasbro one at the same time. My Sams Club version was factory defective with uneven plastic and some parts not fitting. It sucked because my friend bought one for me and him and when we went to open mine it was messed up. Hasbro offered to replace it but it would have not been the original toy, and his was messed up in the same way, just in different areas. Sadly when we took them back to Sams Club all were gone, and they never restocked. He got a refund for both and we were bummed out.
I love the combination of "Titty" Prime but the combo is very top heavy. It not because of the joints but you basically have the brunt of Ultra Magnus front cab sitting almost on top of core Optimus. There were plenty of times I would come home and he was on the floor. Thank god for carpet lol.
Posted by bvzxa on August 23rd, 2017 @ 2:31pm CDT
Rysquad wrote:o.supreme wrote:optimusprime58316 wrote:Reminds me of Omega Prime from 2001 Robots in Disguise. I still have my Robots in Disguise and Ultra Magnus that combines to form Omega Prime. I lost the missiles for both figures tho.
Well yeah...originally in 1988 the toys Super Ginrai (PM Prime), and God Bomber combined to make God Ginrai...
Car Robots I think was at least partially inspired in 2000 when Fire Convoy and God Magnus (using parts of names from both God Bomber and Ultra Magnus), would combine to form God Fire Convoy (aka Omega Prime in the US RiD dub...)
I loved having the Omega Prime toy for the time that I had it. I remember it was a bit complicated though. Once I got them together I don't think I ever separated them LOL!
Would love to see a Power of the Primes Optimus Prime/Ultra Magnus "evolve" to Omega Prime set.
I would too, but given how they try to simplify everything for these new age kids, I doubt we would ever see them release it again. Those toys used higher quality plastics back then as well as rubber tires...even Takara cancelled the re-release of Fire Convoy a while back though it was planned.
I owned like 3 different versions of Fire Convoy/Optimus, and the Hasbro Release of Ultra Magnus and I loved them. I had the Sams Club yellow one, the first release Takara and the first release of the Hasbro one at the same time. My Sams Club version was factory defective with uneven plastic and some parts not fitting. It sucked because my friend bought one for me and him and when we went to open mine it was messed up. Hasbro offered to replace it but it would have not been the original toy, and his was messed up in the same way, just in different areas. Sadly when we took them back to Sams Club all were gone, and they never restocked. He got a refund for both and we were bummed out.
I love the combination of "Titty" Prime but the combo is very top heavy. It not because of the joints but you basically have the brunt of Ultra Magnus front cab sitting almost on top of core Optimus. There were plenty of times I would come home and he was on the floor. Thank god for carpet lol.
Re: First Images of Hasbro Transformers Titans Return Magnus Prime Combined with Takara Legends God Bomber (1906019)
Posted by Kurona on August 23rd, 2017 @ 2:33pm CDT
Posted by Kurona on August 23rd, 2017 @ 2:33pm CDT
So in combined mode, does this make him God Magnus? 
Re: First Images of Hasbro Transformers Titans Return Magnus Prime Combined with Takara Legends God Bomber (1906021)
Posted by RAR on August 23rd, 2017 @ 2:43pm CDT
Posted by RAR on August 23rd, 2017 @ 2:43pm CDT
I noticed that the Optimus / Orion Pax two pack is really cheap on Amazon in case anyone forgot about it.
Re: First Images of Hasbro Transformers Titans Return Magnus Prime Combined with Takara Legends God Bomber (1906026)
Posted by bvzxa on August 23rd, 2017 @ 2:52pm CDT
I have PC-16 Ginrai, and I have God Ginrai, I need to get God Bomber and PC-15 for the Godmaster and I will be set
Posted by bvzxa on August 23rd, 2017 @ 2:52pm CDT
o.supreme wrote:Looks like maybe just a couple of cancellations that went back up. They currently only have collector grade packaging which is an extra 8 dollars
I have PC-16 Ginrai, and I have God Ginrai, I need to get God Bomber and PC-15 for the Godmaster and I will be set
Re: First Images of Hasbro Transformers Titans Return Magnus Prime Combined with Takara Legends God Bomber (1906027)
Posted by Rysquad on August 23rd, 2017 @ 2:57pm CDT
$30, looks like Amazon has a healthy stock for a few weeks now.
Posted by Rysquad on August 23rd, 2017 @ 2:57pm CDT
RAR wrote:I noticed that the Optimus / Orion Pax two pack is really cheap on Amazon in case anyone forgot about it.
$30, looks like Amazon has a healthy stock for a few weeks now.
Re: First Images of Hasbro Transformers Titans Return Magnus Prime Combined with Takara Legends God Bomber (1906029)
Posted by william-james88 on August 23rd, 2017 @ 3:05pm CDT
WOOHOO, another beliver! I hope we get some more opinions soon since like you I am dead certain Tidal Wave is the true gem out of this set. Whether the mold suits him or not, they put a lot of love into him and its easily my favourite headsculpt of all Titans Return.
Also, when putting on the God Bomber bits over Magnus Prime yesterday it totally reminded me of building Omega Prime. The good and the bad.
You win comment of the day!
Posted by william-james88 on August 23rd, 2017 @ 3:05pm CDT
Randomhero wrote: The crowning gem in the siege set was Tidal Wave for me. Close second was of course pounce to complete the clones but Tidal wave is wonderful.
WOOHOO, another beliver! I hope we get some more opinions soon since like you I am dead certain Tidal Wave is the true gem out of this set. Whether the mold suits him or not, they put a lot of love into him and its easily my favourite headsculpt of all Titans Return.
Also, when putting on the God Bomber bits over Magnus Prime yesterday it totally reminded me of building Omega Prime. The good and the bad.
Kurona wrote:So in combined mode, does this make him God Magnus?
You win comment of the day!
Re: First Images of Hasbro Transformers Titans Return Magnus Prime Combined with Takara Legends God Bomber (1906030)
Posted by Rated X on August 23rd, 2017 @ 3:09pm CDT
Posted by Rated X on August 23rd, 2017 @ 3:09pm CDT
Its the same red, blue, and grey plastics with a few minor paint apps (most notably the stupid blue crotch) So basically Magnus Prime is Ginrai with blue balls.
It should have been a Fire guts Ginrai repaint. Re-releasing nearly the same deco was a total fail. Everybody who wanted a Ginrai already bought one or preordered the set combined with godbomber. Especially the people in the US who were forced to buy online from the same site that sells the takara version. Other than a few cheap people, who protested Takara Ginrais price, nobody needs Magnus Prime. Countless Magnus Primes will probably show up on e-bay, and the rest will undergo full toy accurate conversions courtesy of Perfect Effect.
It should have been a Fire guts Ginrai repaint. Re-releasing nearly the same deco was a total fail. Everybody who wanted a Ginrai already bought one or preordered the set combined with godbomber. Especially the people in the US who were forced to buy online from the same site that sells the takara version. Other than a few cheap people, who protested Takara Ginrais price, nobody needs Magnus Prime. Countless Magnus Primes will probably show up on e-bay, and the rest will undergo full toy accurate conversions courtesy of Perfect Effect.
Re: First Images of Hasbro Transformers Titans Return Magnus Prime Combined with Takara Legends God Bomber (1906034)
Posted by Evil Eye on August 23rd, 2017 @ 3:31pm CDT
Posted by Evil Eye on August 23rd, 2017 @ 3:31pm CDT
You know who would have made a pretty neat boxset Voyager? Bludgeon out of Megatron/Blitzwing. The only other Voyager Bludgeons on the market are the old ROTF figure (which needs upgrades and is pretty hard to find for a reasonable price in good condition, at least from my experience) and that exclusive combiner torso Bludgeon (which is very hard to find and looks...questionable) and whilst I know e-HOBBY were teasing that Bludgeon from Hardhead, a Deluxe is a bit short for the skeletal samurai. The Megatron mold would look pretty neat in Bludgeon colours, the tank mode suits him and somehow the Headmaster thing works well for a Pretender. Sure he'd need a sword but Hasbro is no stranger to repacking older weapons with new figures and I'm sure there's a suitable weapon in Hasbro's mold archive they could use (That AoE Optimus Prime and Grimlock two pack came with G1 Rampage's sword, a mold from almost 30 years ago at the time!). Plus they could call his headmaster something weebalicious like Wakazashi or the like.
Re: First Images of Hasbro Transformers Titans Return Magnus Prime Combined with Takara Legends God Bomber (1906036)
Posted by Flashwave on August 23rd, 2017 @ 3:38pm CDT
I'm starting to tire of Bludgeon this and Vludgeon that as a repaint idea. I just dont have that much love for him.
If I recall though, Takara had just rereleased Predaking not long begore. So that "30 yr old" mold was still fresh and not something they randomly pulled out of the vault
Posted by Flashwave on August 23rd, 2017 @ 3:38pm CDT
Black Hat wrote:You know who would have made a pretty neat boxset Voyager? Bludgeon out of Megatron/Blitzwing. The only other Voyager Bludgeons on the market are the old ROTF figure (which needs upgrades and is pretty hard to find for a reasonable price in good condition, at least from my experience) and that exclusive combiner torso Bludgeon (which is very hard to find and looks...questionable) and whilst I know e-HOBBY were teasing that Bludgeon from Hardhead, a Deluxe is a bit short for the skeletal samurai. The Megatron mold would look pretty neat in Bludgeon colours, the tank mode suits him and somehow the Headmaster thing works well for a Pretender. Sure he'd need a sword but Hasbro is no stranger to repacking older weapons with new figures and I'm sure there's a suitable weapon in Hasbro's mold archive they could use (That AoE Optimus Prime and Grimlock two pack came with G1 Rampage's sword, a mold from almost 30 years ago at the time!). Plus they could call his headmaster something weebalicious like Wakazashi or the like.
I'm starting to tire of Bludgeon this and Vludgeon that as a repaint idea. I just dont have that much love for him.
If I recall though, Takara had just rereleased Predaking not long begore. So that "30 yr old" mold was still fresh and not something they randomly pulled out of the vault
Re: First Images of Hasbro Transformers Titans Return Magnus Prime Combined with Takara Legends God Bomber (1906042)
Posted by Rysquad on August 23rd, 2017 @ 3:57pm CDT
Can the cabs and trailers for CW Ultra Magnus and TR Magnus Prime be swapped and still have functional robot modes?
Posted by Rysquad on August 23rd, 2017 @ 3:57pm CDT
Rated X wrote:Its the same red, blue, and grey plastics with a few minor paint apps (most notably the stupid blue crotch) So basically Magnus Prime is Ginrai with blue balls.
It should have been a Fire guts Ginrai repaint. Re-releasing nearly the same deco was a total fail. Everybody who wanted a Ginrai already bought one or preordered the set combined with godbomber. Especially the people in the US who were forced to buy online from the same site that sells the takara version. Other than a few cheap people, who protested Takara Ginrais price, nobody needs Magnus Prime. Countless Magnus Primes will probably show up on e-bay, and the rest will undergo full toy accurate conversions courtesy of Perfect Effect.
Can the cabs and trailers for CW Ultra Magnus and TR Magnus Prime be swapped and still have functional robot modes?
Re: First Images of Hasbro Transformers Titans Return Magnus Prime Combined with Takara Legends God Bomber (1906043)
Posted by Flashwave on August 23rd, 2017 @ 4:00pm CDT
I believe the trailer will work, but Godbomber needs a few tabs on the back. Not sure if Mags has those tabs on him.
Posted by Flashwave on August 23rd, 2017 @ 4:00pm CDT
Rysquad wrote:Rated X wrote:Its the same red, blue, and grey plastics with a few minor paint apps (most notably the stupid blue crotch) So basically Magnus Prime is Ginrai with blue balls.
It should have been a Fire guts Ginrai repaint. Re-releasing nearly the same deco was a total fail. Everybody who wanted a Ginrai already bought one or preordered the set combined with godbomber.
Especially the people in the US who were forced to buy online from the same site that sells the takara version. Other than a few cheap people, who protested Takara Ginrais price, nobody needs Magnus Prime. Countless Magnus Primes will probably show up on e-bay, and the rest will undergo full toy accurate conversions courtesy of Perfect Effect.
Can the cabs and trailers for CW Ultra Magnus and TR Magnus Prime be swapped and still have functional robot modes?
I believe the trailer will work, but Godbomber needs a few tabs on the back. Not sure if Mags has those tabs on him.
Re: First Images of Hasbro Transformers Titans Return Magnus Prime Combined with Takara Legends God Bomber (1906049)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on August 23rd, 2017 @ 4:45pm CDT
I don't expect my G1s to be posable. Eck, most ARE bricks. But I do have a blast transforming them. Also, scale? That's completely irrelevant for G1 because it's all over the place.
And finally, It's impossible to have "nostalgia goggles" for G1 Overlord. Because being Canadian and having only 3 Transformers in ALL of my childhood, the first time I heard of him is when I saw the fansub of the Masterforce cartoon about 8 or 9 years ago.
To fully enjoy my G1 overlord (yes, I DO want him) I'll make sure to spend only the money I don't really need. Still, I do hope Takara will release a reissue of him, like they did for Fortmax. This would make things much, much easier.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on August 23rd, 2017 @ 4:45pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:His head could rotate, at least, which not many G1 toys could do.Rodimus Prime wrote:That's just it. Overlord wasn't fun to play with at all. Not for me anyway. His arms and legs don't bend, and IIRC his waist doesn't move. He can't be posed, his only play value is changing him from bot to base.-Kanrabat- wrote:I'm the guy who LOVE his vintage robots, especially if they are FUN to play with.
I don't expect my G1s to be posable. Eck, most ARE bricks. But I do have a blast transforming them. Also, scale? That's completely irrelevant for G1 because it's all over the place.
And finally, It's impossible to have "nostalgia goggles" for G1 Overlord. Because being Canadian and having only 3 Transformers in ALL of my childhood, the first time I heard of him is when I saw the fansub of the Masterforce cartoon about 8 or 9 years ago.
To fully enjoy my G1 overlord (yes, I DO want him) I'll make sure to spend only the money I don't really need. Still, I do hope Takara will release a reissue of him, like they did for Fortmax. This would make things much, much easier.
Re: First Images of Hasbro Transformers Titans Return Magnus Prime Combined with Takara Legends God Bomber (1906053)
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on August 23rd, 2017 @ 5:06pm CDT
I don't have mine yet (tomorrow), but you can already count me in on Tidal wave. He's the one I'm most looking forward to. 1) Need more cowbell, I mean cons; 2) I love aircraft carriers; 3) that headsculpt.
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on August 23rd, 2017 @ 5:06pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:WOOHOO, another beliver! I hope we get some more opinions soon since like you I am dead certain Tidal Wave is the true gem out of this set. Whether the mold suits him or not, they put a lot of love into him and its easily my favourite headsculpt of all Titans Return.
I don't have mine yet (tomorrow), but you can already count me in on Tidal wave. He's the one I'm most looking forward to. 1) Need more cowbell, I mean cons; 2) I love aircraft carriers; 3) that headsculpt.
Re: First Images of Hasbro Transformers Titans Return Magnus Prime Combined with Takara Legends God Bomber (1906058)
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on August 23rd, 2017 @ 5:19pm CDT
Not quite. I wanted Ginrai but balked at the price, so I passed. I'm also not a traditional geewunner and don't really mind the inaccurate decos. I'm more interested in owning the molds, as opposed to needing the best deco. I usually go Hasbro except for when Takara does something Hasbro doesn't (Nightbird, Slipstream, Black Arachnid, Grand Galvatron, Megatronia, Baldigus). I will buy Takara, so it isn't that I'm "cheap", I just limit it to when Takara offer's something Hasbro doesn't (and it is something I care about). In the case of Computron, I double dipped getting Takara first then Hasbor only because I found it ridiculously cheap. I was always going to get the Hasbro box sets anyway, so when Magnus prime was revealed with very little changes, I didn't need Takara Ginrai anymore. But I did need Godbomber. As soon as Hasbro confirmed he wasn't coming, I ordered Godbomber from BBTS and put him in my pile of loot awaiting the Siege set. Both arrive tomorrow. Magnus is neither going on ebay, nor getting anything from PE and I'm willing to bet there are plenty of others on this site that are doing the same thing.
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on August 23rd, 2017 @ 5:19pm CDT
Rated X wrote:Its the same red, blue, and grey plastics with a few minor paint apps (most notably the stupid blue crotch) So basically Magnus Prime is Ginrai with blue balls.
It should have been a Fire guts Ginrai repaint. Re-releasing nearly the same deco was a total fail. Everybody who wanted a Ginrai already bought one or preordered the set combined with godbomber. Especially the people in the US who were forced to buy online from the same site that sells the takara version. Other than a few cheap people, who protested Takara Ginrais price, nobody needs Magnus Prime. Countless Magnus Primes will probably show up on e-bay, and the rest will undergo full toy accurate conversions courtesy of Perfect Effect.
Not quite. I wanted Ginrai but balked at the price, so I passed. I'm also not a traditional geewunner and don't really mind the inaccurate decos. I'm more interested in owning the molds, as opposed to needing the best deco. I usually go Hasbro except for when Takara does something Hasbro doesn't (Nightbird, Slipstream, Black Arachnid, Grand Galvatron, Megatronia, Baldigus). I will buy Takara, so it isn't that I'm "cheap", I just limit it to when Takara offer's something Hasbro doesn't (and it is something I care about). In the case of Computron, I double dipped getting Takara first then Hasbor only because I found it ridiculously cheap. I was always going to get the Hasbro box sets anyway, so when Magnus prime was revealed with very little changes, I didn't need Takara Ginrai anymore. But I did need Godbomber. As soon as Hasbro confirmed he wasn't coming, I ordered Godbomber from BBTS and put him in my pile of loot awaiting the Siege set. Both arrive tomorrow. Magnus is neither going on ebay, nor getting anything from PE and I'm willing to bet there are plenty of others on this site that are doing the same thing.
Re: First Images of Hasbro Transformers Titans Return Magnus Prime Combined with Takara Legends God Bomber (1906059)
Posted by Bradimus on August 23rd, 2017 @ 5:26pm CDT
Posted by Bradimus on August 23rd, 2017 @ 5:26pm CDT
I purchased Skytread a few weeks ago and while I love the head (especially stealing Chromedome's body) the titan master could not properly interact with the tank/jet at all due to terrible mold degredation. So I returned him. 
Then today I finally gave in and picked up Overboard because I had Overkill as a kid and really like the homage and the colors and the head. But again mold degredation made everything terribly floppy, so now I'm ready to call Hasbro to complain about this and then return Overboard back to Target.
Do I just have bad luck or has this been a widespread problem?
I ask because if it's just bad luck I'm willing to give Overboard another chance as I really want a second Decepticon Titan Master to go along with Fangry. I keep coming across Ptero and keep getting peeved at Hasbro for not releasing the Titan Master as Teradive because that's a Decepticon I want and need as a Titan Master. I prefer the animal Titan Masters to the vehicle ones and feel Hasbro has missed too many oportunities to sell interesting products.
Then today I finally gave in and picked up Overboard because I had Overkill as a kid and really like the homage and the colors and the head. But again mold degredation made everything terribly floppy, so now I'm ready to call Hasbro to complain about this and then return Overboard back to Target.
Do I just have bad luck or has this been a widespread problem?
I ask because if it's just bad luck I'm willing to give Overboard another chance as I really want a second Decepticon Titan Master to go along with Fangry. I keep coming across Ptero and keep getting peeved at Hasbro for not releasing the Titan Master as Teradive because that's a Decepticon I want and need as a Titan Master. I prefer the animal Titan Masters to the vehicle ones and feel Hasbro has missed too many oportunities to sell interesting products.
Re: First Images of Hasbro Transformers Titans Return Magnus Prime Combined with Takara Legends God Bomber (1906062)
Posted by Overcracker on August 23rd, 2017 @ 5:32pm CDT
You mean attaching the CW Ultra Magnus cab onto the Prime trailer?
It should be possible yes. But why?
You want to give Magnus Prime's trailer a white cab?
Posted by Overcracker on August 23rd, 2017 @ 5:32pm CDT
Rysquad wrote:Rated X wrote:Its the same red, blue, and grey plastics with a few minor paint apps (most notably the stupid blue crotch) So basically Magnus Prime is Ginrai with blue balls.
It should have been a Fire guts Ginrai repaint. Re-releasing nearly the same deco was a total fail. Everybody who wanted a Ginrai already bought one or preordered the set combined with godbomber. Especially the people in the US who were forced to buy online from the same site that sells the takara version. Other than a few cheap people, who protested Takara Ginrais price, nobody needs Magnus Prime. Countless Magnus Primes will probably show up on e-bay, and the rest will undergo full toy accurate conversions courtesy of Perfect Effect.
Can the cabs and trailers for CW Ultra Magnus and TR Magnus Prime be swapped and still have functional robot modes?
You mean attaching the CW Ultra Magnus cab onto the Prime trailer?
It should be possible yes. But why?
You want to give Magnus Prime's trailer a white cab?
Re: First Images of Hasbro Transformers Titans Return Magnus Prime Combined with Takara Legends God Bomber (1906066)
Posted by Rysquad on August 23rd, 2017 @ 5:53pm CDT
Disregarding Godbomber - I'm more interested in the Magnus Prime/God Ginrai (heck even Powermaster Optimus Prime) cab with the Ultra Magnus trailer going back to me wanting Magnus Prime to be more Ultra Magnus than Optimus Prime.
Some random thoughts - but somethings I would do different with the Prime Wars Trilogy: Combiner Wars Ultra Magnus should have been Titans Return Ultra Magnus with Minimus Ambus as a Titan Master/Headmaster. This Titans Return Ultra Magnus should then be re-tooled to a Power of the Primes Powermaster Optimus Prime with Apex maybe as a Prime Master.
Posted by Rysquad on August 23rd, 2017 @ 5:53pm CDT
Overcracker wrote:Rysquad wrote:Rated X wrote:Its the same red, blue, and grey plastics with a few minor paint apps (most notably the stupid blue crotch) So basically Magnus Prime is Ginrai with blue balls.
It should have been a Fire guts Ginrai repaint. Re-releasing nearly the same deco was a total fail. Everybody who wanted a Ginrai already bought one or preordered the set combined with godbomber. Especially the people in the US who were forced to buy online from the same site that sells the takara version. Other than a few cheap people, who protested Takara Ginrais price, nobody needs Magnus Prime. Countless Magnus Primes will probably show up on e-bay, and the rest will undergo full toy accurate conversions courtesy of Perfect Effect.
Can the cabs and trailers for CW Ultra Magnus and TR Magnus Prime be swapped and still have functional robot modes?
You mean attaching the CW Ultra Magnus cab onto the Prime trailer?
It should be possible yes. But why?
You want to give Magnus Prime's trailer a white cab?
Disregarding Godbomber - I'm more interested in the Magnus Prime/God Ginrai (heck even Powermaster Optimus Prime) cab with the Ultra Magnus trailer going back to me wanting Magnus Prime to be more Ultra Magnus than Optimus Prime.
Some random thoughts - but somethings I would do different with the Prime Wars Trilogy: Combiner Wars Ultra Magnus should have been Titans Return Ultra Magnus with Minimus Ambus as a Titan Master/Headmaster. This Titans Return Ultra Magnus should then be re-tooled to a Power of the Primes Powermaster Optimus Prime with Apex maybe as a Prime Master.
Re: First Images of Hasbro Transformers Titans Return Magnus Prime Combined with Takara Legends God Bomber (1906069)
Posted by Kurona on August 23rd, 2017 @ 6:18pm CDT
Posted by Kurona on August 23rd, 2017 @ 6:18pm CDT
In theory, how easy would it be to put TR Windblade's faceplate onto T30/Legends Windblade?
Re: First Images of Hasbro Transformers Titans Return Magnus Prime Combined with Takara Legends God Bomber (1906073)
Posted by Evil Eye on August 23rd, 2017 @ 6:45pm CDT
Quite tricky I would have thought. You'd either have to do some cutting and remodelling or else find/design a 3d printed piece. Honestly I'm not sure it's worth it, especially given the wibbliness of the Gen Windblade mold.
Posted by Evil Eye on August 23rd, 2017 @ 6:45pm CDT
Kurona wrote:In theory, how easy would it be to put TR Windblade's faceplate onto T30/Legends Windblade?
Quite tricky I would have thought. You'd either have to do some cutting and remodelling or else find/design a 3d printed piece. Honestly I'm not sure it's worth it, especially given the wibbliness of the Gen Windblade mold.
Re: First Images of Hasbro Transformers Titans Return Magnus Prime Combined with Takara Legends God Bomber (1906077)
Posted by ArmadaPrime on August 23rd, 2017 @ 7:11pm CDT
Tidal Wave looks absolutely lush. I'm pretty sure they used the little voyager-springloaded-head-bulker-uppers to give him the traditional earmuffs which is a very neat way of incorporating that design whilst sticking to a normal sized head.
I do really wish he was in the hasbro colours though. Not that the purple scheme doesn't look good, it just doesnt look quite right to me. And hey, having the green would match his latest appearance in fiction too! Albeit, y'know. Less whale-y (whale-ine?)
Posted by ArmadaPrime on August 23rd, 2017 @ 7:11pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Randomhero wrote: The crowning gem in the siege set was Tidal Wave for me. Close second was of course pounce to complete the clones but Tidal wave is wonderful.
WOOHOO, another beliver! I hope we get some more opinions soon since like you I am dead certain Tidal Wave is the true gem out of this set. Whether the mold suits him or not, they put a lot of love into him and its easily my favourite headsculpt of all Titans Return.
Tidal Wave looks absolutely lush. I'm pretty sure they used the little voyager-springloaded-head-bulker-uppers to give him the traditional earmuffs which is a very neat way of incorporating that design whilst sticking to a normal sized head.
I do really wish he was in the hasbro colours though. Not that the purple scheme doesn't look good, it just doesnt look quite right to me. And hey, having the green would match his latest appearance in fiction too! Albeit, y'know. Less whale-y (whale-ine?)
Re: First Images of Hasbro Transformers Titans Return Magnus Prime Combined with Takara Legends God Bomber (1906085)
Posted by bvzxa on August 23rd, 2017 @ 8:26pm CDT
The only thing is the inside of the cabs are different. Ultra Magnus inside is more like a cockpit. The hinge that connects UMs head connection is different than the head master connection. The outer chassis is the same so if you left it in vehicle mode then its a go. Also if you wanted Magnus Prime to have UM's head then it is also a go. I had to check all three of mine since I have the PC-16 connected to God Ginrai I have a loose truck cab to inspect easily lol. But yes it can be done with ease...and you should take pics too lol.
Posted by bvzxa on August 23rd, 2017 @ 8:26pm CDT
Rysquad wrote:Overcracker wrote:Rysquad wrote:Rated X wrote:Its the same red, blue, and grey plastics with a few minor paint apps (most notably the stupid blue crotch) So basically Magnus Prime is Ginrai with blue balls.
It should have been a Fire guts Ginrai repaint. Re-releasing nearly the same deco was a total fail. Everybody who wanted a Ginrai already bought one or preordered the set combined with godbomber. Especially the people in the US who were forced to buy online from the same site that sells the takara version. Other than a few cheap people, who protested Takara Ginrais price, nobody needs Magnus Prime. Countless Magnus Primes will probably show up on e-bay, and the rest will undergo full toy accurate conversions courtesy of Perfect Effect.
Can the cabs and trailers for CW Ultra Magnus and TR Magnus Prime be swapped and still have functional robot modes?
You mean attaching the CW Ultra Magnus cab onto the Prime trailer?
It should be possible yes. But why?
You want to give Magnus Prime's trailer a white cab?
Disregarding Godbomber - I'm more interested in the Magnus Prime/God Ginrai (heck even Powermaster Optimus Prime) cab with the Ultra Magnus trailer going back to me wanting Magnus Prime to be more Ultra Magnus than Optimus Prime.
Some random thoughts - but somethings I would do different with the Prime Wars Trilogy: Combiner Wars Ultra Magnus should have been Titans Return Ultra Magnus with Minimus Ambus as a Titan Master/Headmaster. This Titans Return Ultra Magnus should then be re-tooled to a Power of the Primes Powermaster Optimus Prime with Apex maybe as a Prime Master.
The only thing is the inside of the cabs are different. Ultra Magnus inside is more like a cockpit. The hinge that connects UMs head connection is different than the head master connection. The outer chassis is the same so if you left it in vehicle mode then its a go. Also if you wanted Magnus Prime to have UM's head then it is also a go. I had to check all three of mine since I have the PC-16 connected to God Ginrai I have a loose truck cab to inspect easily lol. But yes it can be done with ease...and you should take pics too lol.
Re: First Images of Hasbro Transformers Titans Return Magnus Prime Combined with Takara Legends God Bomber (1906086)
Posted by william-james88 on August 23rd, 2017 @ 8:30pm CDT
SAME HERE. The only difference with me is taht I never found Computron for dirt cheap so I just have the takara version. But aside from that you could apply everything written to me.
And I dont think its about being cheap, it could simply be that we have budgets and getting the Super Ginrai mold for cheaper means we can afford other toys.
Very difficult. At this point, it would be easier to paint TR windblae into T30 windblade colours.
Posted by william-james88 on August 23rd, 2017 @ 8:30pm CDT
TF-fan kev777 wrote:Not quite. I wanted Ginrai but balked at the price, so I passed. I'm also not a traditional geewunner and don't really mind the inaccurate decos. I'm more interested in owning the molds, as opposed to needing the best deco. I usually go Hasbro except for when Takara does something Hasbro doesn't (Nightbird, Slipstream, Black Arachnid, Grand Galvatron, Megatronia, Baldigus). I will buy Takara, so it isn't that I'm "cheap", I just limit it to when Takara offer's something Hasbro doesn't (and it is something I care about). In the case of Computron, I double dipped getting Takara first then Hasbor only because I found it ridiculously cheap. I was always going to get the Hasbro box sets anyway, so when Magnus prime was revealed with very little changes, I didn't need Takara Ginrai anymore. But I did need Godbomber. As soon as Hasbro confirmed he wasn't coming, I ordered Godbomber from BBTS and put him in my pile of loot awaiting the Siege set. Both arrive tomorrow. Magnus is neither going on ebay, nor getting anything from PE and I'm willing to bet there are plenty of others on this site that are doing the same thing.
SAME HERE. The only difference with me is taht I never found Computron for dirt cheap so I just have the takara version. But aside from that you could apply everything written to me.
And I dont think its about being cheap, it could simply be that we have budgets and getting the Super Ginrai mold for cheaper means we can afford other toys.
Kurona wrote:In theory, how easy would it be to put TR Windblade's faceplate onto T30/Legends Windblade?
Very difficult. At this point, it would be easier to paint TR windblae into T30 windblade colours.
Re: First Images of Hasbro Transformers Titans Return Magnus Prime Combined with Takara Legends God Bomber (1906091)
Posted by william-james88 on August 23rd, 2017 @ 8:56pm CDT
Posted by william-james88 on August 23rd, 2017 @ 8:56pm CDT
Sorry if I seem so hung up on this, but remember those comments with people complaining about Titans Return shelfwarming? I know it makes fans sad to see the same toys all the time they go to a store, but does that mean that Titans Return is indeed not popular? I am asking because I cam back from an almost fully stocked TRU today. It had lots of movie stuff and older Titans Return stuff as well. Only Wolfwire and Roadburn/Bee/Brawn were left from the more recent TR stock.
But you know what wasnt there? Or at any TRU in Montreal (one of North America's biggest cities) ? Robots in Disguse Deluxes. I asked to see if what I was seeing in this store was the same elsewhere and after searchng through their digital inventory it was confirmed that they were sold out everywhere. That means everyone, including the countless Strongarm, Bee, Prime and Grimlock rereleases. All gone. And we know that those were ordered more than the TR deluxes (which sell at the same price point).
This to me proves that Tians Return in general is indeed niche and that kids are the primary market for toys (well for toys sold in toy stores). We collectors arent that big an audience. The fact that TR toys "shelfwarm" means that there isnt enough of us that care to buy more niche characters not supported by accompanying media.
Just wanted to state an observation, that display really stuck me is all.
But you know what wasnt there? Or at any TRU in Montreal (one of North America's biggest cities) ? Robots in Disguse Deluxes. I asked to see if what I was seeing in this store was the same elsewhere and after searchng through their digital inventory it was confirmed that they were sold out everywhere. That means everyone, including the countless Strongarm, Bee, Prime and Grimlock rereleases. All gone. And we know that those were ordered more than the TR deluxes (which sell at the same price point).
This to me proves that Tians Return in general is indeed niche and that kids are the primary market for toys (well for toys sold in toy stores). We collectors arent that big an audience. The fact that TR toys "shelfwarm" means that there isnt enough of us that care to buy more niche characters not supported by accompanying media.
Just wanted to state an observation, that display really stuck me is all.
Re: First Images of Hasbro Transformers Titans Return Magnus Prime Combined with Takara Legends God Bomber (1906094)
Posted by william-james88 on August 23rd, 2017 @ 9:02pm CDT
Posted by william-james88 on August 23rd, 2017 @ 9:02pm CDT
It has been a slow build with Seibertron showing all the bases connecting together bit by bit throughout this year. However, with Magnus Prime and Overlord out now (in Canada), Titans Return's mega city can finally be completed. Of course, what you see below is just an example of what can be accomplished since the amount of configurations at this point is endless. The pictures below involve all the official bases from the Titans Return line, so every leader figure and the two titan class figures.
This isn't the last of these articles though, there will be a follow up with Takara's exclusive God Bomber added in since he too has a base mode that can connect.
Enjoy!
This isn't the last of these articles though, there will be a follow up with Takara's exclusive God Bomber added in since he too has a base mode that can connect.
Enjoy!
Re: First Images of Hasbro Transformers Titans Return Magnus Prime Combined with Takara Legends God Bomber (1906097)
Posted by Bradimus on August 23rd, 2017 @ 9:10pm CDT
Have you put together a top 5 base modes list? And how about a top 5 fan mode base mode list?
Just some thoughts.
Posted by Bradimus on August 23rd, 2017 @ 9:10pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:It has been a slow build with Seibertron showing all the bases connecting together bit by bit throughout this year. However, with Magnus Prime and Overlord out now (in Canada), Titans Return's mega city can finally be completed. Of course, what you see below is just an example of what can be accomplished since the amount of configurations at this point is endless. The pictures below involve all the official bases from the Titans Return line, so every leader figure and the two titan class figures.
This isn't the last of these articles though, there will be a follow up with Takara's exclusive God Bomber added in since he too has a base mode that can connect.
Enjoy!
Have you put together a top 5 base modes list? And how about a top 5 fan mode base mode list?
Just some thoughts.
Re: First Images of Hasbro Transformers Titans Return Magnus Prime Combined with Takara Legends God Bomber (1906099)
Posted by Bradimus on August 23rd, 2017 @ 9:23pm CDT
I think the key point you mention is accompanying media. Kids want what they see on TV. I know this because my 6 year old cousin loves Rescue Bots and wanted them and I helped his father track down the gift set of the original 4 Rescue Bots. Now he's started watching G1 and is lucky to have his father's G1 Power Master Optimus Prime to play with which is easy enough for him to transform. I'm sure in the next year or two when they come to town to visit he'll want to see my neo G1 (CHUG) collection because that's what he's watching with his father now.
I wish Hasbro made a real effort to make current media targeted at kids for the Generations line, especially since they have done such an amazing job with combiners and titan masters and soon the Prime line. These deserved current media to help sell the toys. At the very least they deserved proper webisodes on par with RWBY and Red vs. Blue. I'm talking weekly 10 minute YouTube videos that tell a story over 15 webisodes. Combiner Wars was lacking and very late. We'll see what Titans Returns brings but that too is way late so there goes any hope of using media to sell toys. I just don't understand how one of the companies that created the ultimate 20 minute toy comercial has so utterly failed at advertising its toys in the modern media age.
Posted by Bradimus on August 23rd, 2017 @ 9:23pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Sorry if I seem so hung up on this, but remember those comments with people complaining about Titans Return shelfwarming? I know it makes fans sad to see the same toys all the time they go to a store, but does that mean that Titans Return is indeed not popular? I am asking because I cam back from an almost fully stocked TRU today. It had lots of movie stuff and older Titans Return stuff as well. Only Wolfwire and Roadburn/Bee/Brawn were left from the more recent TR stock.
But you know what wasnt there? Or at any TRU in Montreal (one of North America's biggest cities) ? Robots in Disguse Deluxes. I asked to see if what I was seeing in this store was the same elsewhere and after searchng through their digital inventory it was confirmed that they were sold out everywhere. That means everyone, including the countless Strongarm, Bee, Prime and Grimlock rereleases. All gone. And we know that those were ordered more than the TR deluxes (which sell at the same price point).
...
This to me proves that Tians Return in general is indeed niche and that kids are the primary market for toys (well for toys sold in toy stores). We collectors arent that big an audience. The fact that TR toys "shelfwarm" means that there isnt enough of us that care to buy more niche characters not supported by accompanying media.
Just wanted to state an observation, that display really stuck me is all.
I think the key point you mention is accompanying media. Kids want what they see on TV. I know this because my 6 year old cousin loves Rescue Bots and wanted them and I helped his father track down the gift set of the original 4 Rescue Bots. Now he's started watching G1 and is lucky to have his father's G1 Power Master Optimus Prime to play with which is easy enough for him to transform. I'm sure in the next year or two when they come to town to visit he'll want to see my neo G1 (CHUG) collection because that's what he's watching with his father now.
I wish Hasbro made a real effort to make current media targeted at kids for the Generations line, especially since they have done such an amazing job with combiners and titan masters and soon the Prime line. These deserved current media to help sell the toys. At the very least they deserved proper webisodes on par with RWBY and Red vs. Blue. I'm talking weekly 10 minute YouTube videos that tell a story over 15 webisodes. Combiner Wars was lacking and very late. We'll see what Titans Returns brings but that too is way late so there goes any hope of using media to sell toys. I just don't understand how one of the companies that created the ultimate 20 minute toy comercial has so utterly failed at advertising its toys in the modern media age.
Re: First Images of Hasbro Transformers Titans Return Magnus Prime Combined with Takara Legends God Bomber (1906102)
Posted by Rysquad on August 23rd, 2017 @ 9:42pm CDT
Those are Top 5s I'm looking forward to.
Posted by Rysquad on August 23rd, 2017 @ 9:42pm CDT
Bradimus wrote:william-james88 wrote:It has been a slow build with Seibertron showing all the bases connecting together bit by bit throughout this year. However, with Magnus Prime and Overlord out now (in Canada), Titans Return's mega city can finally be completed. Of course, what you see below is just an example of what can be accomplished since the amount of configurations at this point is endless. The pictures below involve all the official bases from the Titans Return line, so every leader figure and the two titan class figures.
This isn't the last of these articles though, there will be a follow up with Takara's exclusive God Bomber added in since he too has a base mode that can connect.
Enjoy!
Have you put together a top 5 base modes list? And how about a top 5 fan mode base mode list?
Just some thoughts.
Those are Top 5s I'm looking forward to.
Re: First Images of Hasbro Transformers Titans Return Magnus Prime Combined with Takara Legends God Bomber (1906110)
Posted by Overcracker on August 23rd, 2017 @ 10:10pm CDT
Technically the Ginrai / PMOP cab also is a cockpit albeit a smaller one to hold a Titan Master which is smaller than Minimus Ambus which sits inside Magnus's cab. The hinge that hold the PMOP / Super Ginrai helmet doubles as a seat for the titan master in Truck mode.
The cabs are attached to the trailer exactly the same. Same screw connection. And should technically be about the same size, so should fit in the chest of one another's trailer armor / body.
So you would end up with an Ultra Magnus body with an optimus prime head, and a PMOP body with a Magnus head.
Posted by Overcracker on August 23rd, 2017 @ 10:10pm CDT
bvzxa wrote:Rysquad wrote:Overcracker wrote:Rysquad wrote:Rated X wrote:Its the same red, blue, and grey plastics with a few minor paint apps (most notably the stupid blue crotch) So basically Magnus Prime is Ginrai with blue balls.
It should have been a Fire guts Ginrai repaint. Re-releasing nearly the same deco was a total fail. Everybody who wanted a Ginrai already bought one or preordered the set combined with godbomber. Especially the people in the US who were forced to buy online from the same site that sells the takara version. Other than a few cheap people, who protested Takara Ginrais price, nobody needs Magnus Prime. Countless Magnus Primes will probably show up on e-bay, and the rest will undergo full toy accurate conversions courtesy of Perfect Effect.
Can the cabs and trailers for CW Ultra Magnus and TR Magnus Prime be swapped and still have functional robot modes?
You mean attaching the CW Ultra Magnus cab onto the Prime trailer?
It should be possible yes. But why?
You want to give Magnus Prime's trailer a white cab?
Disregarding Godbomber - I'm more interested in the Magnus Prime/God Ginrai (heck even Powermaster Optimus Prime) cab with the Ultra Magnus trailer going back to me wanting Magnus Prime to be more Ultra Magnus than Optimus Prime.
Some random thoughts - but somethings I would do different with the Prime Wars Trilogy: Combiner Wars Ultra Magnus should have been Titans Return Ultra Magnus with Minimus Ambus as a Titan Master/Headmaster. This Titans Return Ultra Magnus should then be re-tooled to a Power of the Primes Powermaster Optimus Prime with Apex maybe as a Prime Master.
The only thing is the inside of the cabs are different. Ultra Magnus inside is more like a cockpit. The hinge that connects UMs head connection is different than the head master connection. The outer chassis is the same so if you left it in vehicle mode then its a go. Also if you wanted Magnus Prime to have UM's head then it is also a go. I had to check all three of mine since I have the PC-16 connected to God Ginrai I have a loose truck cab to inspect easily lol. But yes it can be done with ease...and you should take pics too lol.
Technically the Ginrai / PMOP cab also is a cockpit albeit a smaller one to hold a Titan Master which is smaller than Minimus Ambus which sits inside Magnus's cab. The hinge that hold the PMOP / Super Ginrai helmet doubles as a seat for the titan master in Truck mode.
The cabs are attached to the trailer exactly the same. Same screw connection. And should technically be about the same size, so should fit in the chest of one another's trailer armor / body.
So you would end up with an Ultra Magnus body with an optimus prime head, and a PMOP body with a Magnus head.
Re: First Images of Hasbro Transformers Titans Return Magnus Prime Combined with Takara Legends God Bomber (1906111)
Posted by Deadput on August 23rd, 2017 @ 10:12pm CDT
Posted by Deadput on August 23rd, 2017 @ 10:12pm CDT
Hey Will you might be forgetting someone in that base collection ya got there eh?
Re: First Images of Hasbro Transformers Titans Return Magnus Prime Combined with Takara Legends God Bomber (1906113)
Posted by william-james88 on August 23rd, 2017 @ 10:17pm CDT
He wasnt released under Titans return
Posted by william-james88 on August 23rd, 2017 @ 10:17pm CDT
Deadput wrote:Hey Will you might be forgetting someone in that base collection ya got there eh?
He wasnt released under Titans return
Re: First Images of Hasbro Transformers Titans Return Magnus Prime Combined with Takara Legends God Bomber (1906115)
Posted by Deadput on August 23rd, 2017 @ 10:21pm CDT
I see. (You should add him anyways just for the sake of city expansion)
Posted by Deadput on August 23rd, 2017 @ 10:21pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:
He wasnt released under Titans return
I see. (You should add him anyways just for the sake of city expansion)
Re: First Images of Hasbro Transformers Titans Return Magnus Prime Combined with Takara Legends God Bomber (1906116)
Posted by Sabrblade on August 23rd, 2017 @ 10:24pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on August 23rd, 2017 @ 10:24pm CDT
At the very least, the instruction sheet does bear the subtitle-less "Generations" logo.william-james88 wrote:Deadput wrote:Hey Will you might be forgetting someone in that base collection ya got there eh?
He wasnt released under Titans return
Re: First Images of Hasbro Transformers Titans Return Magnus Prime Combined with Takara Legends God Bomber (1906117)
Posted by kurthy on August 23rd, 2017 @ 10:32pm CDT
Posted by kurthy on August 23rd, 2017 @ 10:32pm CDT
I decided to take some side by side pics of Magnus Prime and Ginrai. There's not a lot of differences.
Ginrai has a white codpiece with red paint plus the bottom of the chest piece is red instead of silver.
Ginrai has white spots on the chest instead of silver. His windows are also a lighter blue.
Ginrai has no red paint on the side.
Magnus prime has a much bigger Autobot symbol.
Ginrai has white symbols instead of silver.
Ginrai has just slightly darker red paint on the fists.
Ginrai is significantly different in the head department.
Ginrai has gray guns instead of black.
Hasbro superior, Takara inferior.
Ginrai has a white codpiece with red paint plus the bottom of the chest piece is red instead of silver.
Ginrai has white spots on the chest instead of silver. His windows are also a lighter blue.
Ginrai has no red paint on the side.
Magnus prime has a much bigger Autobot symbol.
Ginrai has white symbols instead of silver.
Ginrai has just slightly darker red paint on the fists.
Ginrai is significantly different in the head department.
Ginrai has gray guns instead of black.
Hasbro superior, Takara inferior.
Re: First Images of Hasbro Transformers Titans Return Magnus Prime Combined with Takara Legends God Bomber (1906118)
Posted by Sabrblade on August 23rd, 2017 @ 10:39pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on August 23rd, 2017 @ 10:39pm CDT
I would have to disagree, in that I feel that pretty much all of those changes seem mostly superficial, with the exception of the larger Autobot symbols on the trailer/legs looking more garish and gaudy compared to Super Ginrai's smaller ones that look more subtle and less in-your-face about themselves.kurthy wrote:Hasbro superior, Takara inferior.
Re: First Images of Hasbro Transformers Titans Return Magnus Prime Combined with Takara Legends God Bomber (1906119)
Posted by bvzxa on August 23rd, 2017 @ 10:45pm CDT
Nah, Hasbro uses inferior paints period.
I think both are the same but Takara is screen accurate to how Ginrai looked on Masterforce.
I think the paint choices are rather dull but a good substitute for those who do not have the Takara version. If I had my choice I would still pick Takara for the paint apps. Hasbro did do a good job for the price point tho...
Posted by bvzxa on August 23rd, 2017 @ 10:45pm CDT
kurthy wrote:Hasbro superior, Takara inferior.
Nah, Hasbro uses inferior paints period.
I think both are the same but Takara is screen accurate to how Ginrai looked on Masterforce.
I think the paint choices are rather dull but a good substitute for those who do not have the Takara version. If I had my choice I would still pick Takara for the paint apps. Hasbro did do a good job for the price point tho...
