WST KO Tracks And Road Rage Auctions

Those look awesome!

Sweet jesus, awesome figs!

WTF I NEED THIS!!! why isn't takara mass producting this little guy?

thats cute! i want some wst figs but my first on shuld be megs, and wasnt there a ultra magnus with tiny trailer?

I saw these a while ago on ebay, there was also a WSTF arcee floating around that looked pretty cool.
Wish we could find out who is making these things.

mattyc1007 wrote:thats cute! i want some wst figs but my first on shuld be megs, and wasnt there a ultra magnus with tiny trailer?

Yep, and the last one that I saw sell on ebay went for $300.

Tracks looks nice, I'll definitely be adding him to my WST's. They need to bust out more Decepticons though, not nearly enough of them.

I gotta get this, besides Omega, he's my favorite character I could never find for a decent price. How much is it?

A few weeks back he sold a Smallest Stepper/Ricochet Targetmaster too. another seller sold a similarly made Smallest Slugslinger prototype.

These things are getting better and better.

Holy crap are these ever sweet! I have said it before the KO market knows more about what collectors want than Tomy or Hasbro half the time!

I would slowly like to boil these over a low heat with milk and flour to make AWESOME SAUCE!

Custom WST Ricochet/Stepper was more affordable pricewise, and I just received mine couple days ago, sweet little guy and a great addition to anyone's WST collection.

I am all in for custom WST Tracks, and maybe on Road Rage. However, current auction starting prices are way too steep, not my cup of tea. I will hold up and wait for prices to come down a little bit.... like 1/2 way? Muhahahaha!

Awesome!!!

Hope he makes a few more of these, and more Steppers too.

Perhaps Skids could be on the cards as well, and maybe some affordable versions of Magnus's trailer?

Oh man! I love WSTs and I love Tracks! So happy to see this. I can't wait until they're more common and affordable, I'll definitely be picking one up!

I love how it fits in Prime's trailer.

I want him to go with my Springer, but man, Targetmasters!!! That is really cool! I may have to look those up.

I think I wet myself... Between tracks and stepper, I may never like any other transformers.

Those are soooo cool mini targetmasters!

Geekee1 wrote:

mattyc1007 wrote:thats cute! i want some wst figs but my first on shuld be megs, and wasnt there a ultra magnus with tiny trailer?

Yep, and the last one that I saw sell on ebay went for $300.

Tracks looks nice, I'll definitely be adding him to my WST's. They need to bust out more Decepticons though, not nearly enough of them.

thankyou i thought i was going energon crackers, and aswell be energon crakers to spend $300 on one of them

Calling these Knockoffs is incorrect, these are unlicensed products...similar to the World's Smallest Dinobots.

That's what a knockoff is: an unauthorised reproduction. I don't see how producing it at a different size makes a difference.

Yes they may be called "knockoffs" by some, but that seems to imply shoddy workmanship, cheap quality, and stolen molds.

These are much more in the "fan projects" list, since they are making toys that are original molds (they didn't shrink the molds for the real toy, they made new ones), and homages to things in the toy line or ficton. They are as unofficial and fun as things like City Commander.

Sledge wrote:That's what a knockoff is: an unauthorised reproduction. I don't see how producing it at a different size makes a difference.

Most consider a knockoff to be a fake replica, but we all use knockoff to mean that or cheap ass Transformer remake. But no one seems to use it when there are Replica MP Prime Trailers, WST Dinobots, etc. because they are somewhat original and good quality.

They do use an original mold. It's just based VERY closely on the mold of an existing toy.

Scaleface wrote:Yes they may be called "knockoffs" by some, but that seems to imply shoddy workmanship, cheap quality, and stolen molds.

These are much more in the "fan projects" list, since they are making toys that are original molds (they didn't shrink the molds for the real toy, they made new ones), and homages to things in the toy line or ficton. They are as unofficial and fun as things like City Commander.

It's all a manner of semantics. Other than quality, I usually think of a "knock off" as more or less duplicating an original mold with little original workmanship added.

This guys work firmly falls outside of that category. Even his WST Thundercracker and Skywarp differ significantly from Takara's WST Starscream/Thundercracker/Skywarp mold, with Heerotoysmaker's sculpt being signficantly superior to Takara's IMHO with more G1-ish two-piece tail fins, transparent cockpit domes, and sharper panel lines. I wish he'd make a plain-colors version of Starscream, as my Takara WST Screamer looks kind of cheap next to my Heerotoysmaker seekers, especially the tailfins.

In any case, Takara really dropped the ball by ending WST after only two and a half assortments. I'm grateful that third parties like Justitoys and Heerotoysmaker have gone the distance to bring us more awesome tiny transformers for Trypticon and Metroplex to crush. ;D

Speaking of Justitoys, I wonder what's up with WST Blaster, Shockwave and Wheeljack?

GetterDragun wrote:Most consider a knockoff to be a fake replica, but we all use knockoff to mean that or cheap ass Transformer remake. But no one seems to use it when there are Replica MP Prime Trailers, WST Dinobots, etc. because they are somewhat original and good quality.

The replica MP Prime trailers came before Takara produced one, so there's no way they can be knockoffs, in the same way City Commander isn't. The WST Dinobots are, because they're clearly unlicensed reproductions of the Dinobots. The fact HasTak have (so far) not clamped down on them doesn't stop them being knockoffs.

Sledge wrote:

GetterDragun wrote:Most consider a knockoff to be a fake replica, but we all use knockoff to mean that or cheap ass Transformer remake. But no one seems to use it when there are Replica MP Prime Trailers, WST Dinobots, etc. because they are somewhat original and good quality.

The replica MP Prime trailers came before Takara produced one, so there's no way they can be knockoffs, in the same way City Commander isn't.

But the MP Trailer (non-Takara) was a bigger reproduction of the original smaller one, so how is that different from this?

I for one think all TF items should be licensed from HasTak, but to me unliscensed vs knockoffs are not the same. No one will ever sell this mini-Tracks as the real thing, but they will sell a KO G1 Dinobot as one.

If it was actually a scaled-up reproduction of the original (I never looked into it that much, tbh), then yeah it would be a knockoff as well.

I don't know if there has even been a legal challange when someone makes a homage to a toy, with a completely new mold.

I think they own the molds, and the names, and the logos. The WST Dinobots have new molds (inspired by the original, but different), and new names ("Smallest Tranformers Dinorobot Commander" is on the box for Grimlock). If anything is there that they could be sued for, it's the use of the Autobot and Decepticon logo on many of these toys.